Wednesday 17 February 2010

English Votes on English Laws

I am English, by birth, by outlook, by attitude, by instinct; I live, breathe and think England; I love England, love its history, its culture, its people. Yes, I am English but I also love the idea of a greater nation, of Great Britain, as the sixteenth century Scottish historian John Major or Mair once defined it. The Union of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland is so much greater than the parts.

Over the past three hundred years Britain has brought so much to the world, in peace and in war. England has benefited immeasurably from the Celtic contribution, just as the Celtic nations, though they may no longer like to admit it, have achieved significance in the world far beyond their immediate power and reach. So, yes, I am English but I am also British. It worries me, then, to see SS Great Britain in danger; in danger of sailing on to a particularly pernicious reef. It's called, mundanely enough, the West Lothian Question, long since posed but never answered. Some of you will know it but for those who do not it goes like this:

For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate...Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on English politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?

In its original form it was posed over thirty years ago by Tam Dayell, then Labour MP for the West Lothian constituency, in a debate on devolution in the House of Commons. Well, we now have devolution. Northern Ireland once again is almost completely self-governing; Scotland has a Parliament and Wales an Assembly, with powers over domestic matters...and the West Lothian question has still not been answered.

Irish, Welsh and Scottish MPs still come to Westminster. Irish, Scottish and Welsh MPs can vote on matters pertaining to England alone, while English MPs have no say in the domestic politics of the Celtic nations. We have in Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling a Prime Minister and a Chancellor, both Scots, who can formulate policy and vote on English domestic matters, while English MPs are powerless over matters affecting the constituencies these men come from.

None of this might matter but for one thing: Labour has in the past depended on the support of Scottish and Welsh MPs to achieve a majority in the House of Commons at Westminster. This was irksome, yes, but tolerable within a national framework, tolerable when the reverse process applied: when the Conservatives ruled in Wales and Scotland because they had a majority in England. But it is intolerable in the context of devolution. If, as may very well happen, and perhaps in the not too distant future, a Labour government, with a minority of MPs in England, is propped up by Celtic votes, then the Union will be in real and immediate danger. The English are a tolerant people, but there are limits even to their toleration.

For this reason, and because I want the Union to survive, the time has come to set right the injustice embedded in the West Lothian Question; the time has come to ensure that only English votes are allowed in the passing of English Laws. For this reason I give my wholehearted support to an internet petition on this very matter.

If you care at all for England, for justice and for the Union I would urge you to register your own vote. If the campaign receives enough support it will form part of the Power2010 pledge, and that will mean that Power2010 will lobby every prospective MP to pledge to introduce English Votes on English Laws in the next Parliament.

Let's answer the West Lothian question; let’s end this insult to democracy, let’s end this danger to the union. If you are English, even if you are Scots, Welsh or Irish I would urge you to register a vote in favour of this proposal.


  1. Celtic? Er, the Scots, Welsh and Irish are not Celtic. In fact, they were never even referred to as such until the last few hundred years.

    The Celtic tag is artificially devisive - in my humble opinion.

  2. Yes, I'm sure, Andy, but it's a convenient catch-all term. It would become horribly complicated otherwise.

  3. Great Britain is not so Great now even if we stay together, it's the European Union we have to worry about it's this union that has taken away Great in Great Britain. We do not make our own decisions anymore.

  4. why can not all MPs vote for UK?
    if each of them votes for its own country then what is the meaning of being a union?

  5. I'm with you on this one Ana. The Scots, Welsh and Irish MP's can't have their cake and eat it.

    Do you sometimes get the feeling, in our warped PC gone mad world, that being proud to be English (rather than British) is considered a heresy nowadays?


  6. Donald, sadly true.

    Eck, all MPs can vote in Westminster. The problem arises when Celtic MPs vote on English domestic matters, when English MPs have no say in their domestic matters. There are, of course, all union matters which are handled at Westminster, like trade, defence and foreign policy.

    Glen, yes I do. Did you catch the piece I headed Must Speak English Due To Health and Safety Reasons?

  7. Glen, yes I do. Did you catch the piece I headed Must Speak English Due To Health and Safety Reasons?

    I saw that in the press Ana. Things like tghat make me wild.


  8. I voted for most of the top 10, and if you check the results (hopefully the image is uploaded), English votes on English laws finished in the top 5.

    Regional assemblies were supposed to be the English balance to Scottish & Welsh devolution; though they were unpopular, bureacratic assemblies working at the behest of the EU - and not an answer to the WLQ either! They presumably still exist, currently unelected since the NE voted no, a place to fill with stooges - I'm surprised no one* on Power2010 suggested a campaign to abolish them.

    *as far as I know.

    "I am English, by birth, by outlook, by attitude, by instinct; I live, breathe and think England; I love England, love its history, its culture, its people."

    I think you just fell foul of every BBC guideline on topical discussions about South Britain, we apparently don't exist! As a sane man - I'm at least 90% sure of my own existance - I agree with it all :). Tam Dayell fell foul also, I'm surprised he was a Labour MP. Maybe this was before the party encouraged identity politics which eventually had to find its way round to the English. New Labour took the Scottish vote for granted, not expecting them to turn to the SNP, the working class vote for granted, not expecting them to turn to the BNP etc. When will the madness end!

    PS. If England had devolution, maybe we'd have a chance to stop Gordon Brown trying to sell everything off for short term financial and political gain! Sell off your own shite :@.

  9. Ah, that's good, Jimmy; I'm pleased to hear it.

    I would delight in falling foul of BBC guidlines. :-))