tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post5570144927551518524..comments2024-02-26T00:59:26.907-08:00Comments on Ana the Imp: Gently Johnny; Sex, Sacrifice and the Wicker ManAnastasia F-Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-10783046925209245212012-07-25T16:07:41.848-07:002012-07-25T16:07:41.848-07:00Thanks, Kris. The director's cut is available...Thanks, Kris. The director's cut is available on AmazonUK. I've just checked on Amazon.com. They have something described as an 'extended version', though I'm not sure that's the same thing. The price seems outrageous.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-48412350590725346532012-07-24T18:19:06.292-07:002012-07-24T18:19:06.292-07:00I watched this movie last night, and the Gently Jo...I watched this movie last night, and the Gently Johnny scene was omitted! Will have to find the director's cut version. Apparently, censorship is alive and well in the US, even on an old movie such as this.Helena Fortissimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02038388794311046455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-11788868931347396352011-02-23T15:19:32.253-08:002011-02-23T15:19:32.253-08:00Yes, I know that feeling!Yes, I know that feeling!Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-61513068006906229672011-02-23T02:37:32.278-08:002011-02-23T02:37:32.278-08:00Oman is good Ana. But I recall a week before the u...Oman is good Ana. But I recall a week before the uprising in Egypt a BBC interview with a respected Cambridge Professor on the Middle East saying that there was absolutely no chance of any uprising in Egypt or Libya or anywhere else in the region. I also remember Telegraph experts recommending buying shares in Northern Rock a week before the collapse. What does this tell us? That I have no wish to tempt fate :-)Nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329815721904353534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-13057411032386540092011-02-22T15:10:19.083-08:002011-02-22T15:10:19.083-08:00Nobby, that of course was my spin; Howie was in no...Nobby, that of course was my spin; Howie was in no hurry to die. But the act itself, one of ritual sacrifice, was surely more than simple murder. Howie remains firm in his witness, even continuing to preach and exhort from within the wicker man itself. As he is consumed by the flames he calls on Jesus. His end would seem to conform to concepts of martyrdom, just as much as those of people, some of them children, who died in the persecutions of Nero. This is just my interpretation: theology is not my strongest subject, to say nothing of the will of God.:-) <br /><br />Oh, how are things in Oman? Is there any sign yet of the Arab revolution, or are people more content?Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-15644130256355980292011-02-22T05:24:57.571-08:002011-02-22T05:24:57.571-08:00Theistic evolutionary discourse sets the scene for...Theistic evolutionary discourse sets the scene for an understanding of Theology today. This is consistent with most major churches including Catholic, Orthodox and some protestant churches. The Bible provides analogy, metaphor and other literary devices to engage the reader. What happens in the OT stories of Genesis and Job are good examples of this. Nevertheless, there are many things to be taken literally and Christian faith depends on this; especially with regards to the NT.<br /><br />Now we have this out of the way Ana I can respond directly to your latest comments. I appreciate what has already been said here about death - or more accurately for this discussion, martyrdom - is not as fashionable as it once was but this is not my point. You used the word 'satisfied' to talk about the outcome in the film where a Christian is put to death by pagans. This act is described as 'satisfactory' because the subject of this story is a Christian and, as far as I can tell ,the argument is that the experience is all the more meaningful because of him being a Christian which is historically allied to martyrdom and a belief in an afterlife.<br /><br />However, I dispute this view because we are talking about murder and murder can never be explained away as 'satisfactory' even when it <br />leads to martydom and an earlier than expected appointment with the afterlife. The error as I see it in your analysis is to focus attention on the assumed feelings of the Christian rather to than the sin of the act which has been committed.<br /><br />I have quoted the words of Jesus in an earlier comment because it tells us that even He did not want to die. But then He knew God's will and accepted it.<br /><br />As far as God's will is concerned you are right to say that it is a mystery for most people. Discernment is not and never will be an exact science. However, it seems to me at least that the Christian Saints (The Oxford Book of Saints details some fascinating biographies)knew more than most about God's will. For them God's will was often quite clear. If you read these biographies such a view is self evident.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Nobby.Nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329815721904353534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-76610125785327407892011-02-21T15:00:13.627-08:002011-02-21T15:00:13.627-08:00Thanks, Jeremy. I shall refresh my memory. :-)Thanks, Jeremy. I shall refresh my memory. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-77601077208933918812011-02-21T05:08:21.456-08:002011-02-21T05:08:21.456-08:00"The question is was this meant to be God'..."The question is was this meant to be God's will?"<br /><br />I believe Job 38-43 answers that handsomely.Jeremy Jansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03218395232783877050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-46445217594527549732011-02-21T05:06:46.684-08:002011-02-21T05:06:46.684-08:00@Lekhak: "They even controlled Rome till towa...@Lekhak: "They even controlled Rome till towards the end of the Roman empire, when one of the last Roman emperors, Constantine converted to the newly emerging Christianity."<br /><br />Actually no, the Roman religion was a proto-monotheist religion that believed the Gods, though linkable to the Greek pantheon for the most part, were essentially forces of nature that could all combine in to a single greater God named Jupiter Optimus Maximus, who was not capable of doing evil. The Roman religion, with its mad insistence on absolute correct ritual, blood, and legalism, influenced Christianity to make it the farce of Christs original words that we see today.Jeremy Jansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03218395232783877050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-55835822674104356612011-02-20T14:58:40.050-08:002011-02-20T14:58:40.050-08:00Nobby, it’s certainly no longer the fashion, somet...Nobby, it’s certainly no longer the fashion, something clearly understood by Summerisle, but the early church was full of people who faced death for their beliefs, even if the exercise of such belief was simply to live alongside a pagan majority. As for God’s will that is a little like His peace, beyond all understanding. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-14169961398393308532011-02-20T14:54:01.034-08:002011-02-20T14:54:01.034-08:00Thanks Bernard. :-)Thanks Bernard. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-88399082050293041792011-02-20T06:57:19.294-08:002011-02-20T06:57:19.294-08:00"Father, if thou art willing, remove this cup..."Father, if thou art willing, remove this cup from me; nevertheless not my will, but thine be done."<br /><br />The question is was this meant to be God's will? <br /><br />Somehow, I doubt it. But then I doubt whether the film ought to be taken this seriously :-)Nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329815721904353534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-53217658204296939462011-02-20T06:42:19.510-08:002011-02-20T06:42:19.510-08:00I do not think that any Christian could be satisfi...I do not think that any Christian could be satisfied with dying simply because a pagan or atheist puts them to death announcing that they will meet their God in the afterlife Ana.Nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329815721904353534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-25227458034649734262011-02-20T05:55:44.487-08:002011-02-20T05:55:44.487-08:00I fully support your latest comment Anastasia,
htt...I fully support your latest comment Anastasia,<br />http://les-humeursdebernard.over-blog.com/article-nova-l-aurait-bien-vue-en-67517676.htmlBernieshoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291035620727987456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-19056813684108045872011-02-20T04:42:10.602-08:002011-02-20T04:42:10.602-08:00Nobby, suicide bombers would hardly conform to a ...Nobby, suicide bombers would hardly conform to a Christian notion of martyrdom, or even an Islamic one, for that matter. In the Christian tradition martyrdom is surely not deliberately sought; it comes as a by-product of faith, the determination to stand witness to perceived truths. Here I was thinking of Howie's statement to the effect that he believed in the life eternal as promised by Jesus Christ. I'm sure you'll remember Summerisle's response "That's good, for believing what you do we confer upon you a rare gift these days - a martyr's death. You will not only enjoy the life eternal but sit with the saints among the elect", or words to that general effect.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-9056774490159928882011-02-20T04:35:20.094-08:002011-02-20T04:35:20.094-08:00NP, I never thought of it like that, but I suppose...NP, I never thought of it like that, but I suppose I must be. :-))Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-71389838282794933212011-02-20T04:34:32.316-08:002011-02-20T04:34:32.316-08:00Bernard, I'm delighted to hear that. I'll...Bernard, I'm delighted to hear that. I'll check out your blog later.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-92081156107720394132011-02-20T04:33:39.200-08:002011-02-20T04:33:39.200-08:00Duot, what I'll do is add a blog later today, ...Duot, what I'll do is add a blog later today, naming a few of my favourites. Keep watching!Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-26636339343247989062011-02-20T04:32:17.808-08:002011-02-20T04:32:17.808-08:00Yun yi, I'll look forward to that.Yun yi, I'll look forward to that.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-2284256360065974522011-02-20T04:31:47.458-08:002011-02-20T04:31:47.458-08:00Harry, if you find it you must let me know what yo...Harry, if you find it you must let me know what you think.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-61510588013321648752011-02-20T04:30:59.450-08:002011-02-20T04:30:59.450-08:00Mario, the blonde is Brit Ekland, quite a bit olde...Mario, the blonde is Brit Ekland, quite a bit older now, so well past the fuck scenes. :-))Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-69026030528972144682011-02-20T04:18:04.317-08:002011-02-20T04:18:04.317-08:00Lekak, thank you for such an interesting contribut...Lekak, thank you for such an interesting contribution, lots to think about.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-13354568293605794922011-02-19T08:13:20.250-08:002011-02-19T08:13:20.250-08:00"Everyone should be satisfied; firm in his Ch..."Everyone should be satisfied; firm in his Christian beliefs, Howie is accorded a martyr's death; he will sit in heaven among the elect... ."<br /><br />Hmm... Howie was no suicide bomber Ana.Nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16329815721904353534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-19321176283801968032011-02-19T07:57:29.546-08:002011-02-19T07:57:29.546-08:00I live in a "paginized" community, so th...I live in a "paginized" community, so the film has always been very popular here. Ah, Ana-you're just a free-spirited, skinny-dipping flower girl of the 60s redivivus.nothing profoundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02538561601096574876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-84976404356541043972011-02-19T01:27:23.696-08:002011-02-19T01:27:23.696-08:00It's oneof my favorite movie
http://les-humeur...It's oneof my favorite movie<br />http://les-humeursdebernard.over-blog.com/Bernieshoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291035620727987456noreply@blogger.com