tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post5755899777834727531..comments2024-02-26T00:59:26.907-08:00Comments on Ana the Imp: Pantomime HistoryAnastasia F-Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-14260182226654632022010-07-14T00:34:49.872-07:002010-07-14T00:34:49.872-07:00Thanks again, Jeremy. I'll see if that's ...Thanks again, Jeremy. I'll see if that's available here.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-27674498361046865032010-07-13T23:33:16.464-07:002010-07-13T23:33:16.464-07:00@Ana: Going further back then that in many areas, ...@Ana: Going further back then that in many areas, and I only (for obvious reason) included the relevant Scottish side. I was mostly stating it to make a point about how pecuiliar Americas fascination with Highlanders is. My fathers side is almost purely Scandinavian farm folk in the Midwest. We study our geneology a lot in part because my parents both lost one of their parents when they were very young, and I think for them this was a way of closing the gap in themselves.<br /><br />It's very intersting that you're studying Stuart England, arguably the period and time of history that by and large defined North America. <br /><br />A really good book about the Scots-Irish in America titled "Born Fightin'" was published a few years ago here - my dad read it and very much enjoyed it and he's quite a history buff.Jeremy Jansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03218395232783877050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-7452609374684962092010-07-13T15:35:04.579-07:002010-07-13T15:35:04.579-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-31161907725757776442010-07-13T15:33:41.226-07:002010-07-13T15:33:41.226-07:00Adam, it's not so much a blog about R-K as a w...Adam, it's not so much a blog about R-K as a whimsical reflection on a dimension of my childhood.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-3511779910618678012010-07-13T13:04:00.184-07:002010-07-13T13:04:00.184-07:00Jeremy, it's so interesting that you have such...Jeremy, it's so interesting that you have such detailed information on the history of your family. I, too, have information on my own, going right back to the Napoleonic Wars and even before that, including details of one ancestor who served with Wellington in India.<br /><br />I think the Scots-Irish epic is particularly fascinating. I'm going to add a post on this on the basis of some of the notes I have after I get back from my pending vacation.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-45800512107147371522010-07-13T12:59:50.329-07:002010-07-13T12:59:50.329-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-37052816044306504352010-07-13T12:56:29.599-07:002010-07-13T12:56:29.599-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-27734530614200312692010-07-13T12:54:12.330-07:002010-07-13T12:54:12.330-07:00Adam, Khachaturian, yes and also Balakriev. His t...Adam, Khachaturian, yes and also Balakriev. His tone poem <i>Russia</i> is really special. But I'm going to say something more about Rimsky-Korsakov a bit later. I agree that <i>Till Eulenspiegel</i> is quite impish. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-2044551321079189082010-07-13T05:19:42.090-07:002010-07-13T05:19:42.090-07:00It's really pretty funny that Americans are so...It's really pretty funny that Americans are so fond of Highlanders, because some of the greatest enemies of America as well were Highlanders, like my family, who burned down the White House in 1812 while they were on a 130-year hiatus in New Brunswick before the Great Depression found them in the same position as the producers of Pokemon, bringing my Grandpa MacRae to Texas, where he proceeded to fight honorably (for America, not the commies, though I'm sure he considered it till he had a look at what a Communist kilt looks like) in Korea, and came home an alcoholic. (They also are lions of Africa - Boer War heroes baby!) By comparison, Lowlanders like Carson are what, in America, are referred to as the Scots-Irish, who actually vastly outnumber people of Highlander origin in all regions except the Northwest (Gordon and Fraser being common names there) and New Enlgand. They fought loyally in every American war.<br /><br />Although there were many loyalists in the American colonies during the Revolution, the Highlanders stand out as the only group who by and large actually FOUGHT AGAINST the Americans as supposed to crying and moving to Canada. But I can tell you why Americans would normally think of Highlanders when they think of Scots:<br /><br />Remember how I called people like Carson "Scots-Irish?" In general, Lowlander Americans (like, Ronald Reagan) are considered a separate ethnic group, and they aren't called Scottish. The only people in America who are called 'Scottish Americans' are the former Jacobites forced out of Scotland to North America after the various revolts, mostly from the Highlands. The people like Carson who moved here, usually due to poverty, are called "Scots Irish", in part because many of them went to Ireland first. They are totally separate groups with totally different histories, and it would be the Highlanders who by and large would still be very proud of their Scottish heritage since they didn't come here volunatrilly any more then the African Americans did (though with better fortune once they got here.)<br /><br />Also, Scots Irish in America were generally small landowning farmers on marginal land while Scottish were much more often explorers and cowboys, a large percentage of them eventually ending up defining the cowboy culture of the Northwestern US (ie Montana) and bringing it a lot of its reverence for the land.Jeremy Jansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03218395232783877050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-33287850914592714892010-07-13T01:09:40.966-07:002010-07-13T01:09:40.966-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-9192823598297376102010-07-13T01:02:05.400-07:002010-07-13T01:02:05.400-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-39888590671174950512010-07-13T00:55:10.794-07:002010-07-13T00:55:10.794-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-38156923837579189442010-07-13T00:49:38.069-07:002010-07-13T00:49:38.069-07:00Bruckner, oh, no, but of the assumption that you a...Bruckner, oh, no, but of the assumption that you are referring to the German Strauss I really like <i>Salome and Electra</i>, especially the latter. I could also drink quite a lot of Borodin, Mussorgsky and Rimsky-Korsakov, or as my boyfriend calls him, rip your knickers off. :-))Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-48940137359855796012010-07-13T00:34:53.905-07:002010-07-13T00:34:53.905-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-87275014414527690352010-07-13T00:28:46.180-07:002010-07-13T00:28:46.180-07:00I might very well drink a spot of Mahler. :-)I might very well drink a spot of Mahler. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-82895214016183434752010-07-12T17:41:48.977-07:002010-07-12T17:41:48.977-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-51057176059353226172010-07-12T17:39:20.312-07:002010-07-12T17:39:20.312-07:00I do managed on occasions to suspend disbelief. B...I do managed on occasions to suspend disbelief. But I need a decent horror or romance for total escapism. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-17220634014579858182010-07-12T17:29:29.738-07:002010-07-12T17:29:29.738-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-29101826994255652682010-07-12T17:27:07.886-07:002010-07-12T17:27:07.886-07:00I saw it as pro-Cromwell rather than pro-Parliamen...I saw it as pro-Cromwell rather than pro-Parliament. The understanding of Parliament was pretty bad, as was the understanding of the history of the period. Harris played Cromwell as some kind of crypto-democrat, which he was not. Robert Morley played the Earl of Manchester as the most awful fop. Why he was on the side of Parliament at all I have no idea. The real Manchester was a Presbyterian and a Puritan. You see- the disadvantages of knowing history!<br /><br />I did get the references; don't worry. :-)Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-641543755637198672010-07-12T17:10:22.733-07:002010-07-12T17:10:22.733-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-62665211297293566892010-07-12T17:05:57.004-07:002010-07-12T17:05:57.004-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-41406513199570794652010-07-12T17:03:41.221-07:002010-07-12T17:03:41.221-07:00Yes, Adam, I did see that movie. The politics are...Yes, Adam, I did see that movie. The politics are awful but Alec Guiness was a very presuasive Charles I.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-68638573489881370602010-07-12T16:32:50.398-07:002010-07-12T16:32:50.398-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-12705738346400525612010-07-12T16:21:12.962-07:002010-07-12T16:21:12.962-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.com