tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post4926388035331305961..comments2024-02-26T00:59:26.907-08:00Comments on Ana the Imp: Nigger Jim and the DevilAnastasia F-Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-64497272886326576762011-01-19T22:09:59.698-08:002011-01-19T22:09:59.698-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-72179905603997679522011-01-19T22:05:12.504-08:002011-01-19T22:05:12.504-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-24275098106115468752011-01-19T17:36:50.191-08:002011-01-19T17:36:50.191-08:00Ike says;
Adam
Thanks for your remarks about the...Ike says;<br /><br />Adam<br /><br />Thanks for your remarks about the pornographic issue. Somebody has to remind the Media and I am please that you did.<br /><br />On you longer comment about South Africa and the matter of race or color I agree but I must then point out that where you say that “The seeds of the current troubles in South Africa were sown not in 1994 but in 1948; not because of who was elected, but because of who wasn't.” becomes invalid in present day South Africa [on this day Thursday, January 20, 2011] because the race clash has started, the same color black on black but different races. And that has nothing to do with 1994 or 1948. That goes back to centuries ago before white color set foot out here.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-75384061920217304922011-01-19T00:18:04.908-08:002011-01-19T00:18:04.908-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-44819319412404715662011-01-19T00:00:22.005-08:002011-01-19T00:00:22.005-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-31864576723205093002011-01-18T17:21:48.949-08:002011-01-18T17:21:48.949-08:00Ike, I absolutely agree. Thanks for that interest...Ike, I absolutely agree. Thanks for that interesting background information.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-58081728701556991822011-01-18T17:19:57.325-08:002011-01-18T17:19:57.325-08:00I'm adding the following comment on behalf of ...I'm adding the following comment on behalf of Ike Jakson.<br /><br />Ike wrote;<br /><br />Anastasia<br /> <br />Thanks for an informative Post.<br /> <br />From my perspectives I would also have considered the headline ‘Liberalism gone awry’ for the Post.<br /> <br />To understand this I must give you a few very short details of my background. I was born in South Africa in 1940 [thus long before Verwoerd and Apartheid and all that] and our basic home education was respect for the aged and God.<br /> <br />In 1960 when Kennedy was running for the Presidency in America I realized that he appealed to me more than Nixon but when I said that the young Afrikaners thought I was a very strange person.<br /> <br />Remember this is short. My strangeness grew and the year I turned 30 I went over to liberal politics, left the Afrikaans Church and started advocating integration amongst all people and a South Africa free of racial bias. When the children came I put them in English private schools which were mixed and our son occasionally brought a pupil of color home for the weekend. The Dutch [Afrikaans] translation for the American N word [it’s a K in Dutch] was forbidden in our house.<br /> <br />I had become a pariah in my language group and in the family and was often called a “pink liberal communist” and that was too much for the wife. We were divorced because of that and Television [serious] but it left me free to pursue my political dreams. I voted for the ANC in 1994 and put Mandela’s pictures on my walls and his Long Walk plus the Time Magazine commemorative Edition with his photo as Man of the Year on my coffee table.<br /> <br />However, my honeymoon lasted only 4 years until 1998 by which time I realized the truth about the man. Clinton was then in the White House when I walked out into the political wilderness for the second time in my life. If people ask me what had cured me of “Liberalism gone awry” I say “Clinton and Mandela, and Mandela finally set me free.”<br /> <br />Back to the subject of the Post then; this absurd notion of political correctness will ultimately fail, as it sure must if we want to save the World from self destruction.<br /> <br />May I leave a note for Adam please?<br /> <br />Adam, we have not often had the occasion to address one another but you must have read my mind when you wrote at 16:19 yesterday. I think it was long overdue and high time for someone to say it; hence I ditto:<br />“I rather like the censorship of sex in public; I think it has no place in an open sphere. I would never advocate legislation to censor this kind of filth, but I would hope that people could be British enough not to allow such things to infect our public sphere. Do what you like at home, but outside let's just all be mild, tolerant, charitable people and nothing more.”<br />And let us all shrug at what others call us. As long as it is not profane or willfully intended to damage, let’s laugh it off. Must I tell you what I am called these days?Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-47794421207860474722011-01-17T17:37:47.741-08:002011-01-17T17:37:47.741-08:00@ Ian: As for Saudi Arabia they really do not like...@ Ian: As for Saudi Arabia they really do not like America, they just use us for security and we drain their oil reserves. Most all the middle east monarchy states are scared shitless of the Islamic extremists. The monarchs want to keep their status as the extremists would turn their countries into Islamic republics. As for AIPAC Israel is a foreign nation and not in Americas best interest. The munitions are in position for an attack on the Iranian nuclear projects but the consequences for this will be on us, Mitterand was correct on his assesment.There is a ray of hope as after the impending polar shift the state of Isreal is proposed to be under water.anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02931330128135957439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-61720619409070515452011-01-17T15:44:18.692-08:002011-01-17T15:44:18.692-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-91619905226413613752011-01-17T04:18:06.516-08:002011-01-17T04:18:06.516-08:00The EDL are not philosemitic in the sense of havin...The EDL are not philosemitic in the sense of having any particular appreciation or support for Jewish philosophy or religion; converselyas far as I can tell they are quite sincerely pro-Israeli (and of, well, to be frank, thuggish, elements on the "right" or "far right" of Israeli politics that re their approximate analogue there)<br /><br />And as to the question of whether the Guardian is an antisemitic newspaper (I have read deluded fools elsewhere - who I suspect have seldom if ever actually picked up a copy of hte thing they defame - compare it to "Der Sturmer", so have quite lost patience arguing on this point: but in short I am quite sure that it is nothing of the sort) I'm afraid I am not prepared to outsource my sense of conscience or good judgement to an agency of the European Union! <br /><br />The Guardian certainly has its flaws, and indeed can be frustratingly one-sided and deluded in its coverage of all manner of disputes (domestic as well as international), but to slander it as antisemitic really is quite unacceptable and wide of the mark.Dominichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145734042272196687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-6974554683509286332011-01-16T16:51:34.983-08:002011-01-16T16:51:34.983-08:00Mister Garrie-
As mentioned, I judge The Guardian...Mister Garrie-<br /><br />As mentioned, I judge <i>The Guardian</i> by EU standards. The bias is too consistently rooted in double-standards and too consistently based on disinformation, for me to any longer view their positions as that of a dissenting opinion from someone of good will, but as genuine animus.Ian Thalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348768867561450314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-22270744174921728832011-01-16T16:45:59.195-08:002011-01-16T16:45:59.195-08:00Sorry Anthony, but zionists are pretty up front ab...Sorry Anthony, but zionists are pretty up front about their agenda. Your need to attribute an additional hidden conspiracy shows more your desperate need for an all-powerful enemy.<br /><br />You raise the spectre of AIPAC, but if you were remotely familiar with AIPAC (which you aren't, otherwise you would have spelt the initials properly) you would know that AIPAC endorses Palestinian statehood within the framework of a two-state solution, as does every major zionist organization world-wide.<br /><br />Furthermore, as you talk about AIPAC, you, like many who warn us of the danger of "zionists" ignore that this is one of many different lobbies in American politics. For instance, while AIPAC operates in the open, having public meetings, the Saudi government, often acting as leader of the Arab League also lobbies Congress and the White House, regarding their security concerns, geo-political aims, offering campaign donations along the way. Indeed, there are many such organizations whose whole raison d'êtré is promoting good relations between the United States and another foreign country. I suspect that one finds this in any democratic nation with ethnic minorities whose ancestors hail from different parts of the world.<br /><br />As to your claim that Israel's existence is illegal: it was mandated by the United Nations in 1948 from a former colonial holding of the British Empire. Again, the controversy arises because Israel successfully defended itself from foreign invaders in a war that was entirely unnecessary but not of its own choosing.Ian Thalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348768867561450314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-87246858428748287062011-01-16T15:20:26.730-08:002011-01-16T15:20:26.730-08:00Rehan, you for me will always be the voice of reas...Rehan, you for me will always be the voice of reason. Thank you for those links.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-62034392611579772302011-01-15T22:19:02.415-08:002011-01-15T22:19:02.415-08:00This kind of extreme form of political correctness...This kind of extreme form of political correctness rose its ugly head during the Blair regime. <i>Only Fools & Horses</i>, for example, was recently issued with all the 'Paki''nigger' 'black man's pinch' gaffs cut (I have the original cuts!) I can't imagine how or why someone could be offended by them and not find them funny. Pork was banned from at least one school dinners menu in case it offended Muslims (why did they not think of offending Jews)! Jesus would be black or a girl (for fear of being labelled sexist) and hymns were banned, which I grew up singing and which taught me all about Noah and Jesus. <br /><br />Shock waves of indignation ran across the Muslim world following the recent publication of offensive and crude caricatures of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in some parts of Europe. The un-informed, as ever, misled by the fanatics, gave into public display of rage and rampant chaos ensued. Midst this confusion of an undeniably distressing time for all Muslims, spoke the voice of reason, calm and peace, precisely in line with the teachings of the 'prince of peace' himself - the Holy Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, the voice of His Holiness Khalifatul Masih V. It unfolded the reality of the Islamic ways and means to respond to injustice; calling for peace, reasoning, endeavour to enlighten the world with the power of the pen and ultimately to always put one's trust in sincere prayers. He delivered a series of 5 faith inspiring and enlightening Friday Sermons on the subject of <i>The Blessed Model of the Holy Prophet Muhammad & the Caricatures</i> they are a beacon of light for everyone in this often perplexing world that we live in. The published version of these sermons can be read at: http://www.alislam.org/library/books/TheBlessedModelAndCaricatures.pdf<br /><br />On a lighter note, here is the wonderful Omid Djalili speaking on whether religion should be off-limits when it comes to comedy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Cq2GR-7pQRehan Qayoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02391797858691917631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-5044169669618825392011-01-14T18:19:07.926-08:002011-01-14T18:19:07.926-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Fletch's Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16402507296202065300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-54874205100903428892011-01-14T18:02:10.688-08:002011-01-14T18:02:10.688-08:00On Marx, a sprinkle of water?On Marx, a sprinkle of water?anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02931330128135957439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-79326082219136587712011-01-14T18:00:22.258-08:002011-01-14T18:00:22.258-08:00@Ian: There are indeed conspiracies and hidden age...@Ian: There are indeed conspiracies and hidden agendas in politics , why would Zionists be exempt from this ? . As for the historical homeland of the Hebrews , the illegal state of Isreal was taken by force from the Palistinian people." The land of milk and honey" was already inhabited and the occupants killed and enslaved, all by God's chosen, what God would this be?anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02931330128135957439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-79725967587423079722011-01-14T17:40:48.959-08:002011-01-14T17:40:48.959-08:00@Canary Islander : Not all Jews as some practice n...@Canary Islander : Not all Jews as some practice no religion at all but Zionists do have agendas. They have a powerful lobby in America ,Apac and have a great influence in American foreign policy.They drain The American taxpayer of much money ( about 10 million a day ) and blood as the US fights proxy wars for Isreal. They have majority controll of Mass media, The American medical assosiation, The entertainment industry , The Federal Reserve which is a private not public entity and are the majority of the international bankers.The American people are enslaved to the Zionists.anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02931330128135957439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-42225941064389880182011-01-14T16:34:16.033-08:002011-01-14T16:34:16.033-08:00Anthony,
You start with the sort of vulgar histor...Anthony,<br /><br />You start with the sort of vulgar historically unsupportable conspiracy theories that only an extremist would espouse and then when someone calls you on it, you present yourself as an opponent of extremism. You convince no one but those who are already your ideological fellow travelers.<br /><br />"Zionism" is the proposition that the Jewish people have the right to self-determination in the historic Jewish homeland. That is zionism's only agenda. There is no global agenda beyond what every similarly sized country must do to maintain the security of its citizens.<br /><br />If zionists engage in advocacy in other abroad it is to make a case that Israel's right to exist and ability to defend that right be maintained in a world where many nations do not recognize that right, as well as to foster good relations between Israel and the country where they are citizens.<br /><br />Criticism of Israeli policy, just like criticism of British policy, just like criticism of American policy, when conducted in a fair minded manner, with a concern for truth and justice, is nothing of which to be frightened as Israel, like Britain, like the United States, is a democracy. Citizens of democracies routinely criticize their governments. However, again, making reference to the European Union's working definition of antisemitism: the "[application] of double standards by requiring of [Israel] a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation" and "denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination" is antisemitism, and much of what is called "criticism" does rely heavily on double standards, or in your case, Anthony, misinformation.Ian Thalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348768867561450314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-40030338936744016292011-01-14T12:38:10.121-08:002011-01-14T12:38:10.121-08:00Anthony, this statement of yours:
"The Jews ...Anthony, this statement of yours:<br /><br /><b>"The Jews introduced communism to the world to keep other races in conflict and not take notice to their Zionist agendas."</b><br /><br />moves me ask why do you hold this opinion?Canary Islanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12559374655320416333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-40975200095616469192011-01-14T11:22:30.618-08:002011-01-14T11:22:30.618-08:00Mister Garrie,
I am well aware of antisemitism...Mister Garrie,<br /><br />I am well aware of antisemitism's existence on the left as well as on the right (in fact, I probably spend more time criticizing left-wing antisemitism.) The hatred is so rooted in pre-modern atavism that it can live anywhere on the political spectrum if one is not vigilant.<br /><br />As far as my off-handed remark regarding <i>The Guardian</i> and its readers, I am using the working definition of antisemitism used by European Union's Agency for Fundamental Rights. The most common infraction is the editorial board's consistent "[application] of double standards by requiring of [Israel] a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation" as well as "denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination." There are other such markers in <i>The Guardian</i>'s reporting and opinion pages.<br /><br />While I also agree with you that peace in the Levant will require a dropping of hatred, you will find anti-Semitic hatred more often, more unambiguously, and more strongly expressed amongst those who claim to be "pro-Palestinian" (while not actually doing anything that benefits the people of Palestine) than any anti-Arab sentiment found in pro-Zionist camps.<br /><br />Based on what little I have read about the EDL, I suspect that their philosemitism is for the most part a superficial affectation cynically chosen to antagonize British Muslims during street demonstrations.Ian Thalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348768867561450314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-9422246690447214822011-01-14T10:52:50.507-08:002011-01-14T10:52:50.507-08:00Anthony,
"Karl Marx?"
There was no ver...Anthony,<br /><br /><b><i>"Karl Marx?"</i></b><br /><br />There was no verb there, but given the context, I presume you are using Karl Marx as an example of your previous statement:<br /><br /><b><i>"The Jews introduced communism to the world to keep other races in conflict and not take notice to their Zionist agendas."</i></b><br /><br />Not that this will do much to rehabilitate Marx in the mind of someone who subscribes to racialist theories, but Marx' parents were both converts to Lutheranism, raised their son as a Lutheran and an anti-Semite. His essay, "On the Jewish Question," if anything, should demonstrate you and he have a similar opinion on Jews and Judaism.Ian Thalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15348768867561450314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-76661989169913024182011-01-14T09:50:12.315-08:002011-01-14T09:50:12.315-08:00@Ian:I should have stated that in a more accurate ...@Ian:I should have stated that in a more accurate manner. Extremism is bad in all forms as with fundamentalist christians, Muslim extremists, etc. Zionism is no exception as all Zionist are Jewish but not all Jews are Zionist and you can not blame an entire race of people for a group of extremists. Israel is not without its faults and shortcomings as are all nations,as even moderate Jews speak out against some Israeli actions and policy. But Zionists do have a global agenda by whatever means necessary.anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02931330128135957439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-20492316959780443382011-01-14T01:56:47.220-08:002011-01-14T01:56:47.220-08:00Ian,
I'm somewhat puzzled at the comparison y...Ian,<br /><br />I'm somewhat puzzled at the comparison you draw between the BNP and "Guardian readers"; while I am generally not in agreement with either (although I read the Guardian from time to time, along with many other serious and reputable papers from various countries and in several languages), it is patently obvious to anyone acquainted at first hand with people who fall into these categories that two more different groups of people you could not hope to find, and, more to the point, that the latter would not tend to demean themselves by making statements akin to that of Anthony's which you reproduce, or holding the beliefs that such a statement implies!Dominichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145734042272196687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4413130168723738166.post-15828095662030266902011-01-14T00:44:24.495-08:002011-01-14T00:44:24.495-08:00Ian, thanks for that clarification.Ian, thanks for that clarification.Anastasia F-Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01284602529524462457noreply@blogger.com